Saturday, July 09, 2005

No respect for Cobb?

So I like baseball history a little bit. And Im browsing the internet today and I see Rob Neyer from ESPN.com puts up a little article about what the best historical lineup would be. His outfield consisted of Ruth in RF, Ted Williams in Left and Willie Mays in Center. Certainly this is a pretty good group of Outfielders. I might argue the Hammer (Aaron) over Williams. But I might not. He writes that it was between Mantle and Mays for CF. But where is Cobb. Ty freaking Cobb. Not exactly a light weight in the great player department. I have noticed for a few years now that Cobb is often excluded from "greatest player" discussions. Why is this? Is it because he was an A-Hole racist? Is it because he played in the "dead ball" era? Or is he just not that good? Its not the latter, thats for sure. 1st all time in batting avg. 2nd all time in Hits. 2nd all time in Runs, 4th in Doubles, 2nd in Triples, 6th in RBIs, 4th in Stolen bases. So what are we saying? Sportswriters dig the Long Ball. If you take Home runs out of the Equation. Cobb is in a class by himself. Clearly Home runs have become the single most important stat in these kinds of discussions. But if you do your homework, youll find that Cobb is good in this category also.
It was a different era in the early 1900s. Nobody hit many homeruns. Cobb was as good or better at hitting homeruns than almost everyone he played with. Cobb was in the top 10 in his league in home runs 11 times. Mantle 13 and Mays 14. Bonds 14 McGwire 10, Sosa 11 And none of these guys have a batting avg higher than 302. Thats 65 points lower than Cobb. And Cobb led the Majors in Home runs 1 time. Bonds did this once and tied for the lead another time. So considering that he is better all time than almost everyone in every meaningful category. And was among the best in his time at home runs. How can he be left out of the conversation? He cant be. Yes he played 100 years ago, but I d say in 100 years there have not been any 5 guys better than he.

By the way. I saw Dark Water and The Longest Yard today. TLY was pretty funny. Dark Water was in some ways better than expected. But that just made the bad parts more frustrating.

And if the Dodgers put any more people on the DL, I might be playing third base by the end of the year.

-T

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